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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Sandbox has not been
updated since WP 2.6.0 and Scott Wallick, the guy running it has
basically decided to not do it anymore and offered to sell the domain:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://scottwallick.com/blog/2009/01/on-selling-something-i-sort-of-own/">http://scottwallick.com/blog/2009/01/on-selling-something-i-sort-of-own/</a></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Thematic is in a way a
continuation of Sandbox and actually uses the same code for the
extensive semantic CSS hooks. I am not sure it supports as many
microformats as Sandbox, but it is <a
href="http://microformats.org/wiki/wordpress-themes">recommended</a>
in the Microformats site.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">I am still a big fan of
Sandbox, but it seems the energies and support behind Thematic are
currently the more sustainable/forward-looking option.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">cheers,<br>
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<p><span class="style4">Mushon Zer-Aviv</span><span class="main"> | <a
href="http://www.shual.com"><img
src="cid:part1.08080506.07010807@shual.com" alt="ע" align="absmiddle"
border="0" height="19" width="14"> Shual.com</a> - design studio |<a
href="http://www.ShiftSpace.org"><img
src="cid:part2.03070402.01030000@shual.com" alt="§" align="absmiddle"
border="0" height="19" width="14"> ShiftSpace.org</a> - an opensource
layer above
any website | + 1-646-283-6057</span></p>
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Matt Katz wrote:<br>
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type="cite">
<p>Sandbox is discontinued? It doesn't seem to be on either <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="looks good here"
href="http://www.plaintxt.org/themes/sandbox/" target="_blank">plaintxt</a>
or the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="not too many recent checkins, though"
href="http://code.google.com/p/sandbox-theme/" target="_blank">project
homepage</a>. You sure?</p>
<p>I still dig it as it it implements lots of sexy <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="pak choooie unf"
href="http://microformats.org" target="_blank">microformats </a>out
of the box and is stylable through css alone. </p>
<p>I have no experience with Thematic, it might be god's special
child, just saying I'm not sure sandbox is in a cave with a stone in
front.</p>
<p>And I'm willing to come to a pizza party sometime soon. I've got
some wordpress experience if there is any help needed. If not I could
set aside some time to re-dig into getting federation done. It's
itching me that we still can only distribute from add-art.org</p>
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<p>On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:06:15 -0400, Mushon Zer-Aviv
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mushon@shual.com"><mushon@shual.com></a> wrote:</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">If you're starting
a theme from scratch you might want to look at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://themeshaper.com/thematic/">Thematic</a>,
it's a pretty powerful framework theme - which means you extend it
through a child theme which allow the parent theme to get updates (when
WP updates for example) without having to rebuild the whole theme. It
also has some pretty accessible hooks to only modify what you need
(through the functions.php file) and it makes the whole development
process much more streamlined and simple. They also have decent
documentation there too. I definitely intend to use it (instead of the
discontinued Sandbox) as my base theme from now on.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"> </p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Let me know if
you're going for it.</p>
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<p><span class="style4">Mushon Zer-Aviv</span><span class="main"> |
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.shual.com"><img
src="cid:part3.00090007.04030006@shual.com" alt="ע" align="absmiddle"
border="0" height="19" width="14"> Shual.com</a> - design studio |<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ShiftSpace.org"><img
src="cid:part4.07000004.01000306@shual.com" alt="§" align="absmiddle"
border="0" height="19" width="14"> ShiftSpace.org</a> - an opensource
layer above any website | + 1-646-283-6057</span></p>
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Greg Leuch wrote:</p>
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<div>i'm still up for making the site pretty and cranking out a
template. is there someone who is/will be managing the site?</div>
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<div>Greg Leuch</div>
<div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic;">Creative
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<div>On Jun 5, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Steve Lambert wrote:</div>
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<div>Sounds like we're switching. Greg, you still up for
implementing one of your designs?<br>
<br>
Anyone else interested in developing the site?<br>
<br>
Time for an old fashioned pizza party?<br>
<br>
<br>
Also, 0.8.3 went out today with small changes for the new FF.<br>
<br>
Steve<br>
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