<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; 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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div></div><div>Steve</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Steve Lambert</div><div><a href="http://visitsteve.com">http://visitsteve.com</a></div><div>Eyebeam Senior Fellow</div><div><a href="http://eyebeam.org">http://eyebeam.org</a></div><div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span></span></span></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span> </div><br><div><div>On May 22, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Mushon | Shual.com wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt; ">Yes, I am starting to think that approaching it as a puzzle is the way to go.</div><div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt; ">Having the cropping act as a playful element in the presentation of the image.</div><div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt; ">Here's <a href="http://blogs.trb.com/news/politics/blog/kennedy%20in%20ft%20worth%20nov%2022%201963.jpg">another one</a>.<br> </div> <div class="moz-signature"><p><span class="style4">Mushon Zer-Aviv</span><span class="main"> | <a href="http://www.shual.com"><span><shual_icon.gif></span> Shual.com</a> - design studio |<a href="http://www.ShiftSpace.org"><span><shiftspace_icon.gif></span> ShiftSpace.org</a> - an opensource layer above any website | + 1-646-283-6057</span></p> </div><div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt; "><br> <br> Steve Lambert wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:61982E51-D1C4-481C-AB39-13DA3CA6D097@visitsteve.com" type="cite">The new show for tomorrow's launch was put together by curators at the Brooklyn Museum. it's all Hiroshige (not contemporary I know) and I think it looks really great for similar reasons. Lot's of detail so you don't mind the cropping. It's my favorite one so far. I will be releasing it tonight if I can finish in time.<br> <div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px;"> <div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <br class="khtml-block-placeholder"> </div> <div>Steve</div> <div><br> </div> <div>--</div> <div>Steve Lambert</div> <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://visitsteve.com">http://visitsteve.com</a></div> <div>Eyebeam Senior Fellow</div> <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://eyebeam.org">http://eyebeam.org</a></div> <div><br class="khtml-block-placeholder"> </div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </span></span></span></span></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </span> </div> <br> <div> <div>On May 21, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Mushon | Shual.com wrote:</div> <br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <blockquote type="cite"> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Got Add-Art running for a while and I thought I'd share my thoughts...<br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">I have been having this discussion with Steve on and off, but looking at the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://add-art.org/content/tropical">Tropical set</a> Add-Art-Work makes me even more convinced of this. The format works well when the image is very detailed but does not have a centric image or subject. It is only that with the current design that crops a single image we get one image cut up to pieces. In the case the whole image is very detailed in the first place, I think we will get something nice (like in the example I brought up). When we're getting a cropped image there is something missing, in most cases that might be a downer, in some cases (with detailed images) it wouldn't matter, as the crops serve as needed zoom-ins, a smart artist will use this disadvantage as an actual advantage and actually hide information in the crops and create a mysterious composition of ads.</div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">The other option is to spend some time and make unique designs for different sizes. This will definitely be the way to go, but it is very time consuming. (I have been thinking of doing that myself, but couldn't find the time) (yet).</div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Another interesting take might be pretty ambitious yet promising many creative possibilities - have html add-art. That would allow me for example to set a div with a tiled background and a centered png. This opens tons of options for designs that would react dynamically to the space they get. But this is soooo 2.0, so yes... forget about it.</div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Based on the success of the Tropical set, I would say a <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://home.actlab.utexas.edu/%7Elitlgirlblue/SoundClass/Bosch.gif">Hieronymus Bosch</a> art would be great! So would an <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://hello.eboy.com/eboy/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/eby-tokyo-53t.png">eboy</a> piece! For the sophisticated option, think of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://the-lawn.net/comics/comics/photos/Where%27sWaldo.jpg">Where's Waldo?</a>... ;)<br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;"><br> </div> <div style="margin-bottom: 0cm; margin-top: 0pt;">Anyway, just my 2 cents, would love to get your thoughts on this... and, I'll see you at the Rhizome event tomorrow!<br> </div> <div class="moz-signature">-- <br><p><span class="style4">Mushon Zer-Aviv</span><span class="main"> | <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.shual.com"><span><shual_icon.gif></span> Shual.com</a> - design studio |<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.ShiftSpace.org"><span><shiftspace_icon.gif></span> ShiftSpace.org</a> - an opensource layer above any website | + 1-646-283-6057</span></p> </div> <span><shual_icon.gif></span><span><shiftspace_icon.gif></span> <div style="margin: 0px;">_______________________________________________</div> <div style="margin: 0px;">Supperclub mailing list</div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Supperclub@lists.add-art.org">Supperclub@lists.add-art.org</a></div> <div style="margin: 0px;"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lists.add-art.org/listinfo.cgi/supperclub-add-art.org">http://lists.add-art.org/listinfo.cgi/supperclub-add-art.org</a></div> </blockquote> </div> <br> <pre wrap=""><hr size="4" width="90%">_______________________________________________
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